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Sabriel ([personal profile] bindsthedead) wrote in [community profile] ximilia2023-03-10 04:59 pm

Audio; evening of the second day; Un: Sabriel.Abhorsen

I've got an idea- I'm not entirely sure if it will work, but it's worth a try, unless someone can suggest an alternative way of helping the Hivawei.

[Because stopping the asteroid doesn't seem possible without using the orb, and even Sabriel has to admit that doing so would be risky.]

I have Remi's notes, because I was there for that mission- they describe a means of opening paths between worlds. I've never been able to make it work, but Doctor Strange and I think that if enough magic users work together, and combine our abilities, we might be able to make it work, and send any of the Hivawei who don't wish to die with their planet to a place they can survive. A place like Gyeonje, not Badrock or E-23b.

[Sending the Hivawei to either of the latter would just be condemning them to a slow death, rather than a rapid one.]

So I'm asking anyone with any magical abilities if they're willing to help find a way to get the Hivawei off this planet, even if the attempt to reach Remi fails. But if he does answer our call- hopefully he'll be willing to help.
cruelyethuman: (Are you sure?)

Voice. un: Aleksander

[personal profile] cruelyethuman 2023-03-13 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
And how will you make sure that the new world welcomes the Hivawei? That they even want them there.

We could be sending them in to a world that will hate them. That will stop at nothing to destroy every last one of them.
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voice, un: strange

[personal profile] rehandle 2023-03-13 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
Thank God you're here, who knows what might've happened...

[ That's heavy sarcasm for Imagine, Other People Also Have Thoughts. ]

We can't begin to confirm an answer to the question of safety without a path between here and the world we want to risk assess. As things stand, we can't create a path between worlds without additional input. Please rest assured we have no intention of dropping the Hivawei from one impending doom into another, but our immediate priority is making the possibility of dropping them anywhere a feasible reality.

Are you able to help with that, or shall we call on you when we've set up a suggestions box for answers to important but currently entirely hypothetical logistical questions?
cruelyethuman: (My my)

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[personal profile] cruelyethuman 2023-03-13 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Sabriel knows the answer regarding my abilities and- let's keep calling it magic.

The plan, for now, for the survival of an entire planet, is to wait and see? [Sincerely and sugar-sweet] Lovely. How certain are you that a portal can be made, if there is enough power behind the spell?

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[personal profile] cruelyethuman 2023-03-14 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure they would.

I have concerns, but I am also willing to admit that I have no experience with doorways to strange worlds. I will lend my power to your efforts, Sabriel, should you need them.
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[personal profile] asymbiotic 2023-03-13 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
What if we don't move them? What if we move the... the comet, or the asteroid, or whatever it is? If we can open a portal can't we just put it out in space somewhere where it won't hit anyone?
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audio, un: strange

[personal profile] rehandle 2023-03-13 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
[ Sounding considerably less snarky than he does in the conversation with a certain other enquirer. ]

Theoretically it's a good idea, but we'd need a portal large enough to transport the entire asteroid, most likely an item or element from the particular patch of deep space we wanted to land the asteroid in to anchor the pathway, and very precise configuration to make sure we don't accidentally set it on a new collision course.

That makes it a lot more complex an operation than opening up a portal for people to pass through to a place the station's already visited.
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[personal profile] asymbiotic 2023-03-13 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
What if we just... bump it a little bit? I don't know anything about magic but couldn't you just change the angle so it misses us?

It just seems like it would be a lot of work trying to evacuate people from here, and we might not get everyone, and we don't know what would happen to them after we send them somewhere else, and some people might not want to go.

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[personal profile] locumstudentesquire 2023-03-13 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
[This... Is the most brilliant application of turnabout thinking. Ryunosuke's mind is blown.

Too bad it's going to get shot down, but at least he's impressed with you for as long as the idea is out there unchallenged, Chuuta.]

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[personal profile] shishkabob 2023-03-13 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don’t use magic myself, [unless you count his innate demonic power as magic, which Dante doesn’t,] but my old man’s sword has a lot of his power sealed away inside it. Might help.

If you need an extra source of power I can hand it over.

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[personal profile] rehandle 2023-03-14 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
[ Interesting. A magical relic, of a sort? ]

Thank you. Is it power you know how to tap?

[ Easier to have the wielder on call if there's a trick to getting the blade to give up the goods. ]

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[personal profile] walkingtrigger 2023-03-13 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconding what the user above suggested; would moving the asteroid be more feasible than trying to relocate an entire planet's population?

[ He's just rarely seen when large number of refugees flooding into a new location has ever ended particularly well for the refugees. ]
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Audio. Un: Aleksander

[personal profile] cruelyethuman 2023-03-13 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
And whatever planet it might hit as it flies through space, wouldn't be our problem. Would it?

Might be a year from now. A hundred year. A million. But it will hit something else, eventually.

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[personal profile] rehandle 2023-03-13 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Not in the context that the asteroid is essentially a giant missile moving rapidly through space and the population we're looking to move are small mushroom people whose size we currently match.

If we had a method to move the asteroid into a safe area of space, or safely dispose of it, that would certainly be the better option. But it's not something we currently have means to pursue within the bounds of the spell we're suggesting in this broadcast. I encourage you both to shop around for anybody who might have the means.

[ A little brusque but not sarcastic, he means it genuinely. If they have a better option than disrupting an entire people, great. He just doesn't have the time to spend on an idea he doesn't have the ability to pursue when there's another that he does. ]

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[personal profile] choicely 2023-03-13 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
[ It takes her a while to reply, and when she does, Yennefer's voice shows distinct signs of resignation. ]

... I'm certain the subject of my ability to create portals has likely cropped up in the conversation at one point or another. But there are inherent risks.

[ Setting aside her feelings on diverting efforts away from the orb, meanwhile: ] It's incredibly unwise to open portals from one location to the other when you are doing so blindly, without advance knowledge of where you're heading. [ Not that that's stopped her from doing so in the past, but in her defense, she was being chased by an assassin at the time. ] There's also the possibility that the place we send them to may not even be hospitable, and not merely from a place of potential hostility, as Kirigan mentioned. What if they're incapable of surviving on a world other than their own? We could very well be condemning them to a different fate entirely.
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[personal profile] rehandle 2023-03-13 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Sabriel's already covered he where and the why. With those done, all he;s got to add is - ]

If it's an option we don't ultimately end up considering safe enough to use, or that the Hivawei don't want, so be it. But better to work on it and answer these questions as we go than to lose the chance because we spent too long on What Ifs and not enough time on spellwork.

[ A beat here, vaguely aware of his tendency to steamroll and not wishing to drive anyone away, so quickly, before there's quite a silence long enough to allow her to speak: ]

—I'm not dismissing your concerns, we'll discuss everything at length if we get this off the ground. But first we need to know if we have enough help to make it worth spending our time on. The more strength we have to combine, the more chance we have of having good reason to discuss logistics.

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[personal profile] hatejakku 2023-03-13 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what I can do. If I can help, I'm willing.

[ Because it's not exactly magic, is it? Also, no, not everyone in this discussion does know what he can do, but he also doesn't particularly want to talk about it, so- ]

But I like the idea of keeping their home safe and have thought trying to move the asteroid, too. If that's off the table, what if we tried destroying it? If it's close enough, maybe we can rip it apart, make most of it burn in the atmosphere.

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[personal profile] romancekiller 2023-03-14 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I can't really help with the magic side of things but— just wondering would making the asteroid smaller be possible at all to avoid greater impact or would that be a lot more complex to do? [she has seen the mentions of moving it, the size being an problem and other dangers raised by others but she figures it is worth voicing either way]
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[personal profile] rehandle 2023-03-14 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
As Sabriel said, I don't have anything that would work at short notice on a body of this size and force.

[ It's possible there's something in the library at Kamar-Taj, but no doubt a spell for many Masters - and the hypothetical doesn't help them here. ]

And any spell I might otherwise employ is currently useless due to the small factor of space. [ And the size of both themselves and the asteroid, but those are secondary when he can't even get close enough to see how significant a problem they are. If he sounds particularly spiteful over the concept of the existence of space, it's because space continues to always ruin everything. ] Thanks for the suggestion. If anyone hears it who might have a way of turning it into a solution, I encourage them to get in touch.

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